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If they are tech-savvy then they must realize that this is what so much of the tech industry has become.

You can't stick your head in the sand. You can't run away from it. And, if you're in the tech industry, you are responsible for it.

If you want to be serious about the tech industry then you must look unflinchingly at its nature. And if you don't like what you see then that's the signal that it's time to change things, isn't it.

Musk is determined to do more damage to the Tesla brand. I don't think Tesla sales will go well in Europe this year.

Quite a change from a year ago: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/16/elon-musk...

> requestAnimationFrame would not help

But have you tried it?

MDN Documentation: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/requ...

Example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Canvas_API/...

> This sort of flare-up always feels absolutely critical in the moment—how can one possibly justify not dropping everything to orbit around it?—and then vanishes. Their half life is so brief that I'm surprised people don't notice how ephemeral they are.

You're wrong.

It's not going away: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/23/elon-musk-nazi-joke-adl

It's who and what he is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/25/elon-musk...

It's who he wants to be.

What's his thinking here? "Gee golly, two fascists salutes weren't enough. I'd better double down!"

Tesla's European sales will be interesting to watch this year.

It depends how much you want to compromise yourself.

These days being associated with Musk in any way is going to make you look bad. Musk goes out of his way to make sure you look bad.

He's trying Nazi jokes now: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/23/elon-musk-nazi-joke-adl

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

The simpler thing will be for Tesla to stop blocking cars from charging.

Closed infrastructure makes EVs worse than ICE vehicles. I can fuel my ICE vehicle at any fuel station, I should be able to charge my EV at any charging station.

Tesla chargers have been open to all EVs in Europe for years now, including Kias:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yflZN0dLT8s

All Electrify America stations charge all EVs, including Teslas. Tesla can lift its game in North America.

The Vehicle Identification Number includes a manufacturer section:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number

Kia was supposed to have access in North America by now so Tesla must have enabled it according to the original timelines and not the revised timelines.

The restrictions are artificial. Kias have been able to use Tesla chargers in Europe for years. It works because it's all CCS. NACS is CCS with the J3400 plug.

It looked like this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

These people like it: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus...

So does this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l...

In what way was it not a fascist salute?

Especially when you're speaking at a political rally and you perform two fascist salutes.

kvirani is probably thinking of these bumper stickers:

https://heatmap.news/electric-vehicles/anti-elon-bumper-stic...

https://www.etsy.com/shop/MadPufferStickers

You didn't buy your own personal Trump (at least I hope not).

Musk has made himself synonymous with the Tesla brand. Buying Tesla means supporting Musk, whether you want it to or not.

Tough sell these days:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

Especially in Europe.

Sales won't be helped by this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

Europe really won't like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjWl_RNDMSA

And competitors will take advantage: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-politics-sales-opportuni...

Musk is doing too much brand damage to Tesla and he's a pigeon CEO anyhow: https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/elon-musk-pigeon-ceo-former-t...

It's time for him to leave the business.

> Give the context of a funeral, and close to 0% would see it as a Nazi Salute.

No. Near 100% would see it as a fascist salute because it is a fascist salute.

Sometimes things are exactly as they appear to be. There's no explaining away this one.

How does WebAssembly compare to an implementation of the same algorithm in JavaScript?

China is less per capita but the most in total:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/us/countries-cli...

China is one of the biggest polluters on the planet. They had better have record solar installation.

What is the missing context?

> but "openly fascist"?

Yes. What would you call this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

Neo-Nazis are onboard with it: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus...

So is this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l...

It wasn't an accident. Musk did it very deliberately. And he did it twice just to make sure.

A roman salute is the Nazi salute. Same thing.

A "roman salute" is the fascist salute. The word "fascist" comes from Italian politics and is derived from Latin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

So ultimately you've agreed that Musk did indeed do a fascist salute.

Neo-nazis say otherwise: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus...

Hitler says otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlenyBWs4w&t=88s

Says it twice: https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_l...

In what way was Musk not doing a fascist salute?

These people also don't see a problem with it: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-mus...

And this person similarly doesn't see a problem with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlenyBWs4w&t=88s

What are you claiming? That The Guardian doctored the video?

Twitter's already got something to tackle:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...

I don't think Musk is helping Tesla sales in Europe.

The end result of that is that Musk will be lionized by Hacker News but never criticized.

Your policy settings are wrong.