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Not to mention Kdenlive, which is being actively developed again and has been the most capable and stable of the free video editors I've used this past year (including Openshot, Pitivi, and Flowblade)

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And Blender! I've found it more intuitive, feature-rich and stable than anything else. And it installs straight from Debian's default repos.

Blender could almost replace aftereffects for a lot of us, but it does so much it would probably confuse a new user as to how you could replace AE.

is there a way to get Kdenlive in a single folder with all it's dependencies, isolated? or even the new version that's using KF5

I'm not using KDE and had a few problems in the past after pulling too many things.

> 0 upgraded, 109 newly installed, 0 to remove and 30 not upgraded. After this operation, 289 MB of additional disk space will be used.

edit: nevermind, daily-builds https://kdenlive.org/download-development but it still needs some things installed

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