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Comment by gjolund | Hacker News Reader

My designers keep asking for "pair design" sessions with me, where I open chrome inspector and "tweak" things for them.

So goddamn irritating.

Just learn to fucking write some html, js, and css or go back to print design... if it still exists.

UX degee level graduate here, had too many interviews in which an interest and ability to write code was seen as a detriment to the design process because they thought it detracted from the ability to design as a 'dumb user'. And because the people interviewing had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned anything 'engineering'. Some of these people had no idea how the Internet works or how to make a simple web page. And yes, I have do have chip on my shoulder about it, because many UX people are self-taught and have little idea about what UX is either, they just keep churning out "i think" "solutions" that never get tested.

Would be happy to work with you sometime, people with an eye for design that can actually build their designs are worth their weight in gold.

I find that most UX people I work with rely way to heavily on A/B testing. A/B testing is a great tool to get to the perfect UI, but when you are A/B testing every feature because you have no idea what works and what doesn't it becomes a huge waste of my time.

Same, did undergrad and masters in HCI at top 30 schools. Love design and love coding. The industry needs more people like us on design teams. Don't be jaded, the graphic designers who claim to be UX designers/researchers that don't understand statistics/how software products are built will not survive for long in the future as tech takes over the world

I read excuses here.

Excuses how? Because I didn't get that particular job? I work, I do code and I do UX. There are a great many people in UX who are not trained in UX. Given what the article was about, would you trust an untrained person to make key decisions about your product, or would you rather have someone quallified as in the rest of the IT industry?

Not sure what you are replying to, you were too vague.

If they are your designers, it might be time to engineer a better hiring system.

They are not "my" designers.

The design department is managed separately from the Engineering department. I have no control over their tooling, hiring practices, or deliverables.

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