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I'm expecting SystemDos any month now.

Let's see he can take over cron and make it 10 times more complicated... what else is left...

They have a bootloader now. I'm sure this is very beneficial for certain types of people.. my developer friends who are becoming sysadmins by way of 'devops' like systemd quite a lot.

Me? I've gone to freeBSD for personal things; until Apple successfully pushes launchd upstream..

If you want to see how far spread systemd is actually becoming install arch linux using the official guides.. it's very easy to set up- but you definitely can see how it's "everything that isn't linux that your computer needs to be functional"- I'm sure they'll have a wayland fork in no time.

> They have a bootloader now.

The systemd people have a Grub/Grub2/LILO replacement!?

Would you be so kind as to link to details? :)

gummiboot has been integrated as reference implementation of systemd's bootloader interface.

It's (unsurprisingly) much simpler than GRUB2 (as is every other bootloader in past, present, and presumably the near future).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software) now called systemd-boot

Apple shipped launchd and made it open source ten years ago. They did their part, it's now FreeBSD's job to integrate the code.

my point was that apple is trying to push them into integrating it.. but obviously I don't want that- and most sane people don't want that either.

Don't erroneously conflate Jordan Hubbard with Apple. I also reject your mischaracterization of desiring launchd being a mark of insanity.

Further still, jkh's primary dominion is over iXsystems products, not upstream FreeBSD itself. For instance, he's not on the FreeBSD Foundation's Board of Directors despite being a high-profile figure.

On the other hand, though desiring launchd is not insanity, I do consider it hasty and not well thought out, as you might know.

I'm still waiting on systemd getting its own text editor, with keybindings that are a random combination of emacs and vim ones, at which point all config files will switch to a binary format that cannot be read by normal editors.

Following that logic, it would make more sense for systemd team to get an own language, something with traits of rust, go and haskell, and port everything to that, at which point it wouldn't be much of a stretch to drop libc and with it all support for "unsafe" languages.

Why stop with a text editor? A binary source code format separate from the binary text format.

Me too. I've been waiting since https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7536375

He could always go into hardware.

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