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I think you're doing yourself a disservice by saying organic is bullshit. Food isn't always about what you put in your body, but is also about how it affects the environment we live in, and in that sense, organic is definitely not "bullshit". However, I will say that the label of "all-natural" posted forefront and proud on products is misleading. All-natural does not equate to healthy, yet it seems many consumers believe this. Anecdotal of course.

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Organic isn't bullshit however, asking for organic worldwide exclusive of anything else, would let people starve.

So, it's baby steps. We've learned to hybridize to improve yields and learned how to fertilize to improve yields. Both of these innovations have allowed to world to grow without widespread malnutrition (as we used to have).

Now we have an opportunity to innovate farming methods to rely less on poisons while improving yields on traditional farming (non-modern farming). It's one of those things where it's difficult to impossible to achieve without the ugly stage (given the parameter of a world not starving to death in the meantime).

Organic is bullshit from the perspective that it is just a luxury product that does not scale and therefore is completely unsustainable as a way of eating for the world population.

Well, if you're going to be realistic about it, humanity does not scale either. We need a negative growth rate to get it back to sustainable.

People have been saying that for 50-60 years now, and history seems to have taken a bar bet to see how many different ways it can make those people end up sounding dumb.

We're not going to have a negative growth rate, and we're going to feed everyone.

And by everyone of course you mean first world and developing countries.

I said "everyone" because I meant "everyone".

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