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Why not just get two dedicated servers and have one be used as a backup?

For $60/mo you can get 4Tb space free, basically unlimited bandwidth and a permanent 4XL-equivalent instance that makes scaling up to that point extremely easy with no need to configure autoscaling, s3, inter-service communication, cloud formations or complicated fail-over strategies. Unlike AWS instances that die frequently, a dedicated server is much less likely to malfunction.

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Assume you are talking about OVH or Hetzer? Those companies have their issues too.

Yeah, those two. There are some Latvian ones as well. What are some of the issues you've ran into with them? Genuinely curious.

I used Hetzner a few years ago, in the space of 6 weeks I had 3-4 times I couldn't login because the network was saturated under a "DDoS", I had random and sporadic network drops even when they said they weren't having problems.

Latency was an absolute disaster even typing characters via SSH was horribly slow.

The management platform was hilariously bad (they where still sending me notification emails about 9mths after I cancelled).

We went back to linode for everything after that, for our needs it hits the sweet spot between cost and reliability (back then DO was new and had it's own issues, largely due to a flaky network).

Now I'd possibly consider DO for compute or job servers but I think I'd still use Linode for anything that wasn't running on my own hardware, I've been a customer with them for something like 6 years and they've never let me down.

Makes sense.

I've used Hetzner for 2 years now for a lot for personal projects, and I do get slowish SSH sometimes, but that's what Mosh is for. Also, it's much better for European customers than for US ones.

They are also the only service I can afford for personal projects that requires a lot of RAM. Basically, any machine learning with a ton of features.

Here's a test with latency:

    URL tested:	http://rerecommender.com
    Test performed from:	New York, NY
    Test performed at:	2015-12-18 04:36:44 (GMT +00:00)
    Resolved As:	188.40.128.87
    Status:	OK
    Response Time:	0.306 sec
    DNS:	0.075 sec
    Connect:	0.115 sec
    Redirect:	0.000 sec
    First byte:	0.116 sec
    Last byte:	0.001 sec
    Size:	7688 bytes

Are there other well known dedicated hosters beside OVH in North America?

reliablesite.net, 100tb.com (bit expensive, unless you need the bandwidth) are two good ones.

OVH puts a ban on business from mainland China. It`s kind of weird. You maybe hate those harassment, and you want to shame mainland Chinese(because almost all other countries, even Hong Kong SAR and Taiwan are accepted). But a) this is business, you should not be that emotional, there are good people in China too. Doing business in this way may only humiliate yourselves. b) you can not just ignore China market, it`s a market no company should overlook.

Could it be because of a lot of spam originates in China?

So some Chinese residents buy the servers to spam others and then they have to clear blacklists for their server IPs?

No offence, fighting spam in that way is either an IQ problem or an EQ problem. Banning mainland China business completely for couple of years to clear blacklists? Brilliant. Actually you can buy any servers from EC2, linode, DO freely from China anytime. How can they deal with this issue?

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