I for one would like to see traders compete something other than speed and hope to see the IEX up and approved as an exchange sooner rather than later.
I for one would like to see traders compete something other than speed and hope to see the IEX up and approved as an exchange sooner rather than later.
I'm not an insider or an expert, and I'm sure there are many nuanced arguments for and against individual use cases. I'm really just trying to point out that there it is not clear what the systemic risks are, or how algorithms will behave in a market that is drastically different than the what we've seen in the last 4 years. It is impossible to test a system like this as a whole. My personal lack of knowledge about the inside baseball does not change this fact. And dismissing the macro view because of nuanced micro arguments comes off as flippant, elitist, irresponsible, and incorrect in my opinion.
For example, one worry I have is that algorithms may crowd out non-silicon short sellers. As much as short sellers are demonized as "evil speculators" in times of market stress, sometimes in a down market they are in fact the only buyers available and actually slow down declines when they cover. I don't have solid evidence that short sellers are crowded out by HFT... but I am trying to provide an example of a scenario where the "macro" effects could transcend the nuanced "micro" arguments about cost, efficiency, liquidity, etc. There are numerous other plausible scenarios that fit this bill as well, and it is the uncertainty around them that I am trying to point out.
Of course, none of these things have to do with IEX or a time delay... maybe things like order stuffing or spoofing are related but even those things are not what I'm talking about. Especially considering the dialog that has taken place since Flash Boys was released, I feel that both industry and regulators risk getting caught up in a cost/benefit analysis of the small issues while ignoring potential systemic problems.
As an investor I don't really have a huge dog in this fight... I'm not expecting any pension, and I don't own any managed funds. I generally use fundamental analysis to do long term investing in broad sectors using ETFs and a smattering of individual stocks. I manage my own money and so I will have no one to blame but myself if things go wrong. And frankly, if I lose $0.0002 on a trade by being frontrun in a dark pool it doesn't change my life, so for me to argue for or against IEX is somewhat irrelevant. However as a taxpayer I am concerned that public pension systems could very quickly find themselves vastly underfunded in a short period of time, and as a human being I worry about people who have worked their whole lives and just want to retire in peace.
I think that my concerns are not entirely disconnected from what the general public feels/understands about "modern markets", so while in most cases I probably have no basis to refute your specific arguments, I suppose I take exception to people with "macro" views such as mine being dismissed as unsophisticated proles. Even if that is not what you were trying to do... Matt Levine definitely comes off like that in his article.
> why exchanges that encourage HFT are costing all of us with retirement funds lots of extra dollars.
Why do you believe this, HFT lowers the spread making entering the market cheaper for those guys.
I do think that an exchange that places less of a premium on speed like the IEX is a reasonable way to let the market itself evaluate the benefits of HFT. If the exchanges with HFT do provide a better value in terms of liquidity or price then the IEX will suffer as it provides an inferior product. If IEX flourishes then it is providing some value to investors. Let investors vote with their dollars
The biggest reason for that is that I believe that individual investors are dramatically better off in a world of cheap wholesale market makers than they could ever be being dumped in the shark tank of hedge funds that is IEX. I have no problem with institutional investors who want to take advantage of IEX if they think that is best, they are professionals and that is their job to figure that out (though I wouldn't want to be invested with an institutional investor who wanted to trade on IEX because I would be suspicious of their competence). What I find really scummy is the marketing ploys of IEX to try to frame this as in someway good for individual investors.
[edit] Obligatory, please if you've read Flash Boys read "Flash Boys: Not So Fast". No one who understands/has worked in electronic trading that I've met believes that Flash Boys is anything but misrepresentative and bad.
The article doesn't make that case because Levine is semi-famous for repeatedly calling Flash Boys into question, particularly with regards to the book's claim that HFT allows "front-running".
Flash Boys doesn't make that case because it's an incoherent mish-mash of different arguments that don't add up to a definition of "virtual front running", let alone an argument that it's happening.
Except it didn't, it merely showed that the author has no understand of what HFT is. Flash boys is full of hyperbolic bullshit that may sell books but shows no real understanding of how the market works. He misuses the term front running (which is illegally using knowledge of your clients positions to trade ahead of them) and applies it to being a faster speculator, which is in no way front running. The guy quite simply doesn't know what he's talking about.