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I wonder if IE will adopt it? Firefox and Chrome are very responsive, Microsoft not so much.

Firefox is very conservative when it comes to image formats - more so than any of the other browsers.. See WebP[1], JPEG2000[2] and JPEG-XR[3]. I'd be very surprised if they supported this.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856375

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36351

[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500500

That's a fairly convincing argument, I definitely need to concede the point here. Appreciate your insight and helpful links!

Safari is much bigger problem than Edge/IE.

No hope for WebM in Safari. WebM for Edge is in development.

This is about an image format not a video format, so you probably mean WebP. WebP isn't supported in Firefox, Safari or IE, so it's not like Safari is the lone browser blocking new image formats.

It really depends on what it is - Edge is missing some rather fundamental modern CSS features (filters immediately springs to mind).

Actually, Edge has CSS filters as of last November: https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/257854-microsoft-edge-dev...

Test drive site here: https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/testdrive/demos...

I apologise, I meant blend modes:

https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status...

They have it marked as low priority, even tho it is a standard present in all other browsers.

I think that roadmap displays a solid representation that Edge is going to be our next lowest common denominator for webdesign/development for the next few years... I really don't care about its native ES6 support.

Maybe SVG 2.0...

This is the link of doom for me: https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/257854-microsoft-edge-dev...

How often do you need lossless images on the web? Almost never.

All those animated GIFs around the web, plus the images were JPEG artefacts would be noticed. Examples:

The Y logo in the top left of this page is a GIF.

All the logos at http://www.ycombinator.com/ plus the six images below More Quotes are PNGs.

Forgot PNG is lossless :P

If the compression is good enough, always. Lossy compression was born out of necessity, after all.

It was not born out of necessity. It was born because of the way your brain percieves the images. There is no need in adding detail if your brain can live happily without it.

And if FLIF achieves such great lossless compression, imagine what amazing compression you can achieve with lossy compression.

Let's take a step back. Why did developers start to think about how the brain perceives details and how to trick it in the first place? Out of a necessity to save bandwidth and/or storage space.

You have a point. But I also like fast, snappy websites :P

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