Comment by dimino | Hacker News Reader

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Tipping is some of the worst form of payment in existence. It's completely unregulated from a consumer standpoint, and is therefore subject to every single bias one can think of - sexism, racism, "attractivism"? Literally every single little thing that people use to incorrectly assess another person's performance or behavior will be calculated into a tip. Don't like a person's nose ring? Lower tip. Don't like a person's haircut? Lower tip.

If a company were found out to be basing salaries on these things, they'd be sued so hard and so fast, their HR department would catch fire from the friction.

We laud restaurants when they do away with tipping [0], what's up with the two-faced response to Uber and their tipping stance?

Tipping sucks. Tipping absolutely sucks. I'm begging you nice people to not push Uber into a tipping model just because you hate Uber. Tipping is the much worse evil here.

    [0] - https://goo.gl/0oFRei

Is there a two-faced stance? I haven't seen it. Everyone in this thread, as well as everyone I've talked to personally, loves Uber because you can't tip. It's literally the only reason why I personally never take Lyft, despite it being cheaper.

This article seems to give way more credence to the option of being able to tip Uber drivers than I think is warranted.

Just to add on for folks in other parts of the world, in the US, if you work a job that gets tipped, you usually can legally be paid way less as a base wage.

> The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any pay period, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate. [0]

Uber will take advantage of this, if they can. Tipping is a trap!

    [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States

Uber drivers aren't employees so don't get paid minimum wage (or anything, really) by Uber in the first place. They get paid their fares minus Uber's vig.

Fully agree, been to Japan couple of weeks ago and they literally don't tip at all. Everybody gives you the change to the last penny, which is awesome. There's no need for you to evaluate the service and tip accordingly, not to mention some awkward situations when one of the parties is not happy with it.

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