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Very off-topic but what is your real-world use case for such an app? The site lists a couple but most of those seem to make more sense when using a recording app in the traditional, explicit, way (e.g. "we are having a meeting, I will record this meeting").

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So honestly it's best use case is "gotcha". As in you didn't know I was recording and you said something stupid and now I have a recording. Likewise if you are talking to someone and you say something along the lines of "Are you sure about that?" or "Can you confirm this is what/how you want me to do this" and then you record the audio for later incase they come back and say "I never said that".

For myself I went the extra mile to just have my laptop record ALL audio but then felt this was a little too douchey/NSA-y and disabled the whole thing and wiped the audio. I wanted such a system not only for "You said this then and now you are saying that now" but to remember things I had said myself. I wanted to hook it up to STT to have a searchable archive of what I had said but again it was an invasion of privacy (to people around me) that I personally couldn't stomach.

Besides the creepiness, the law around recording people without them knowing (one-party consent) is state-by-state

As for creepiness, you know what's creepy? People saying something and then lying about it later.

You'll be happy having the audio even if there are restrictions. Simply don't tell anyone about it until the benefits (saving your ass) outweigh the drawbacks (potential charges).

To circumvent the one-party consent issue, he could just write a Terms of Service on the inside of his shirt that includes a clause about "Engaging in conversation as a use of the Services" that implies agreement with the Terms of Service.

I Iive in a one-party consent state, I checked before I tested it.

How often do you record other people?

I said about I don't do it anymore, I'm not sure what you are trying to ask here.

Virtue signaling. By implying that you're a criminal they feel it makes them look better.

As for you, there's nothing morally wrong in wanting to not be trapped by a liar. And it doesn't magically become morally wrong if you walk into a two-party state.

What is STT?

Speech to Text

Transcribing audio to text

Thank you.

I've often been in meetings I wish I'd have recorded but didn't think about it until too late.

For that matter, I'd love the same concept with video, if there was a way to always record what I'm seeing without having to think about it in advance or wear a camera on my face, to capture anything interesting that happens to me, I'd be interested. I remember a story about an exec at Microsoft installing implants in his head for this purpose.

I'm terrified of anyone but me having access to this kind of data, though. It's nobody's business but mine.

Don't know about HeardApp, but I automatically assume the primary use case is for the company's benefit and not mine. Is it installing SilverPush on my phone and listening for things besides me to cross-reference and track my activity? I don't know...

> I'm terrified of anyone but me having access to this kind of data, though. It's nobody's business but mine.

This is by far the biggest problem with this kind of tech. If there were a way to guarantee the privacy of the recordings, it would be a super useful tool. You could basically have a perfect photographic memory. Not to mention all the cool processing you can do with the data. The idea really excites me, but equally terrifies me.

But I think given enough time and progress in encryption/speech recognition/legal issues, I think something like this is inevitable. It's hard to see a future where we record less. I think another key part is having access to data of you. That way you don't feel like it's being recorded to be used "against" you.

The best case I saw was to catch things your kids say. It's really hard to get a child to repeat exactly what they said again.

I'm guessing your phone would have to be pretty close to the child though.

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