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A cartoon pair of breasts squirt cartoon milk at the end. Are we talking about the technology or the art? At least one of the the creators seems to have a very R. Crumb aesthetic. Is cartoon lactation just part of the art or is it more tech industry misogyny in a project launch? It is interesting for sure on a few levels

Analysis: http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R

EDIT: stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. Watch the video, see the cartoon milk squirting breasts. Click on the creator links. Look at their tumblrs. Look at their aesthetic. Discuss the issue. Sorry if the content that they put in their video makes you uncomfortable, but it is on-topic for this post and I'm pointing out that it is there

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> stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote.

I down-voted. I also watched one of the videos and read the article without noticing any lactating breasts. Nevertheless I think this is the art style, and neither you or I have to view it or like it. I'm really clueless as to which hat you pulled tech industry misogyny out off.

The parent comment was posed as a question for discussion, rather than a statement of fact. While agree with your points, I disagree with your combative tone.

I edited my top level comment in which I wrote that the GP was condescending and opinionated - but I don't agree that the tone was without basis:

> stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote.

> Watch the video, see the cartoon milk squirting breasts. Click on the creator links. Look at their tumblrs. Look at their aesthetic. Discuss the issue. Sorry if the content that they put in their video makes you uncomfortable, but it is on-topic for this post and I'm pointing out that it is there

The entire bulk of GP's edits are in imperative form, and give a very strong impression of exactly that: condescending moralizing - I could be wrong, but given how rare repeated imperatives in English are, I would like to know why you think otherwise.

The moralizing is about people actually reading what I wrote and the observations I am contributing. It is not about moralizing morality. I like cartoon boobs, but I would never put them in a project launch video and I am amazed whenever female sexuality creeps into tech promotion. I also personally like the aesthetic of the artists who made this. I'm just amazed that there is this cultural blindspot to this type of presentation

Here you go http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R

Would you like me to link you a Madonna video? Is that misogynistic too?

At worst this is a spoof of second-rate 80's production. Though without your comments most people probably wouldn't have even noticed.

I think you have yet to make an argument as to why this is an issue and needs to be the focus of the discussion rather than the tech.

You linking to a Madonna video could be misogynistic. I don't know until you show me what you are talking about. For example, if you linked to a clip and wrote, "stop talking about female sexuality in tech promotion because Madonna had cones on her boobs first" then yes, it would be misogynistic and a very unsophisticated misdirection. But, sure go ahead and show me what discussion-ending hammer you want to drop

For what its worth, I tried this while it was on display in Toronto, and it was great - it was set up for kids and there was no 'cartoon breasts' to be found, just a bunch of super stoked kids seeing their creations come to life & playing with tech

I don't think it's important. Being offended by breasts is a problem with the viewer, rather than the creator, in my opinion.

I'm not offended. I like cartoon boobs. Why do sexual themes make it into tech promotion often? I don't know. I'll just go back to reading http://oglaf.com and leave this alone

The instant I saw the woman was eating a banana, I knew the word "misogyny" would be brought up multiple times in this discussion. I didn't even notice the breasts.

> Is cartoon lactation just part of the art or is it more tech industry misogyny in a project launch?

When intent determines whether an act is right or wrong I believe I'm asking the wrong question.

That's an odd thing to say. It's at the heart of many legal systems. You hit a child with your car. Did they walk out in front of you and you didn't see them or did you have 2 seconds to brake/swerve but didn't want to?

I saw the two videos on the page but I didn't see the "cartoon milk squirting breasts". Can you please be more specific and point out where they are?