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Basic Income + Open Borders = National Suicide

This proposal probably wouldn't pass in USA as well, especially given the fact that it's easy to get a Green Card and citizenship.

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Are you sure it's easy to get a green card and citizenship? Maybe half a century ago it was, and that's where all the stories come from.

Right now, it's actually very hard; even (or especially) for regular normal middle class hardworking people.

You're talking out of your ass, with the exception if you consider having $500k-1mil in cash + probably a few years of your life to spend "easy".

(I apologize for the lack of substance, I'm a bit pissed off from the blatant ignorance).

They're voting for asylum reform, but against UBI. What's the point? In a generation, they'll have UBI.

What does the asylum reform say about the UBI? I don't see how you get from one to the other?

The types of immigrants they're looking to bring in with reform aren't trying only to escape war, but looking for a free leg-up. i.e. Syrian war refugees going to Germany instead of any of the countries along the way that aren't experiencing war.

They'll be sure to vote established people's money for themselves.

I'd like to know why someone disagrees with what I've said.

> it's easy to get a Green Card and citizenship

Can you provide some information on this? As far as I know, it's difficult to emigrate to the USA. If it's easy, I'd love to know more about that as I want to move there.

I disagree. I feel that the first country to have basic income + open boarders will "win." People will move there. The human mind is very powerful. On average, countries with more humans are more powerful.

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