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In London they have built some amazing cycle super highways which are great to cycle on, however you can go incredibly fast and some people do - I've seen three ambulances in a week along there (Embankment) recently scraping up people off the road. It's safer than being with cars and lorries but pedestrians seem to not look and walk into the cycle lane because bikes are pretty silent... anyway I do agree with cycle lanes but maybe we need to think through pedestrians and speed as well...

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Pedestrians need to learn to expect bikes on those lanes. I don't know what they look like but they should stand out as bicycle lanes to anyone on the road. Also, cyclists should be careful just like regular drivers and adjust their speed to their environment. If you were raised in The Netherlands you would know very well to check for both cars and bicycles when crossing anything.

> I don't know what they look like

Ideally like http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcc_production_bucket/files/8920/in_... but in many places they're more like http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/48375000/jpg...

Just for posterity it looks like this: http://lcc.org.uk/articles/campaign-success-cycle-superhighw...

The first is pretty good I'd say.

That second shot shows nicely why that particular solution doesn't work; cyclists take to the sidewalk as the road is too crowded and dangerous.

Exactly. I chose both photos carefully; the first one does look okay indeed, but note the location of the bus stop. Unfortunately pedestrians (especially tourists; we're talking about central London here) often don't realise there are fast moving vehicles on that blue strip.

The pedestrians along Embankment in London are usually tourists so it's difficult to train them :-D I think the signage needs to be better - or I would rather the curb on the pedestrians was raised to make them think a bit.

The best bicycle lanes I've seen are painted in green with bicycle symbols here and there. I would think it's pretty universal. I don't know how costly this solution is though.

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