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When internal CDC employees are admitting to fraud and systemic corruption[1], it makes sense to do your own research. Conducting research is a welcome activity in most civilized groups.

[1]"Dr. Thompson has admitted in taped phone conversations and in a statement through his lawyer, that he and other authors of the study, which include senior officials at CDC, manipulated the data and violated study protocol to conceal their findings linking the MMR vaccine to autism." http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/05/03/836249/...

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Let's be clear: there is no evidence linking MMR vaccines with ASD. There are literally hundreds of examples of research into this, and there is ample evidence that there is no link. Here are my favourites; I'm sure you'll agree that they carry substantially more weight than a press release from an anti-vaccination group.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2275444

http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452

http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X01...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15259839

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10803-006-0157-3

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67...

That article should not be considered reliable. Even though that sentence was structured as a statement, all the sources are cited as "multiple reliable sources." There is no record of those "taped phone conversations" and the whole thrust of the article is that there is a rumor that the CDC will recant its study showing no link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Where does that rumor come from? Those multiple unnamed reliable sources. Also, this article was written in May, so if they were truly on the cusp of releasing new information it's weird that we're at the end of September and none of these predictions have come to pass.

Though the article is a great example of how this type of misinformation can propagate and sound scary and true if you're already predisposed to believe its stance, so is still interesting to read from that perspective.

I hope this gets downmodded to oblivion. Googling your way through false information, conspiracy theories and outright lies does not constitute research.

The mmr-autism link is so thoroughly debunked that to keep repeating it is the dishonest in the extreme. The man that invented it has been shown to be an outright fraud, his research unethical and his ability to practice medicine taken from him.

Why not look at the multiple sources of corruption with Wakefield?

A man who had a patent for a measles vaccine had to discredit that vaccine in order to be able to sell his own.

Andrew Wakefield was hired by a lawyer -paid hundreds of thousands of dollars- to discredit MMR.

He forged the data. He took samples without consent. He performed unnecessary tests and didn't get ethics panel approval.

http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp

Account age 19 minutes...

Hopefully trolling.

http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com

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