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Wow ... so Executives who were actually responsible for taking this decisions will get away with it and staff will get fired. Always blame low level engineer seems to be the mantra.

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FYI, they are hiring 9k too. This is as much about profitability as a transition to electrical.

If that matters the former CEO immediately accepted responsibility and resigned in 2015.

I believe, these are further consequences of the budget cut, they are NOT blaming low level engineers for the emission scandal...

Resigned with a golden parachute worth more than you or I will probably see in our lifetimes. Tell me, what actual consequences did that CEO face?

Yes they are. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/volkswagen-pulls-...

I do not know the details, but Horn - who blames the engineers in your article - was fired too, two weeks before your article was published (with two other executives): http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/24/horn-hackenburg-hatz-fire...

What if it's true?

VAG said they had come clean, and now there's another software defeat going through in some Audi models now. Another rogue engineer? That hardly seems credible. Corporate bad faith and malfeasance? They're already in the thick of it.

There may not be explicit blame, but the budget cuts are fallout from the scandal. Thus there are people losing their jobs while other people with (likely) more culpability for the scandal remain employed.

A simpler way to put it would be that there is at least one person with no role in those decisions that is losing their job because of the scandal.

This is a side effect (there definitely was a better word for this) of the crime, not the punishment.

I don't think the article mentioned if executives are exempted. I think the 30K is across the board.

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Wolkswagen PR specifically blamed "the engineer culture" for them cheating. Like developers take any executive decision ...

You do realize that the CEO and executives who made those decisions were considered engineers? Because they started as engineers at VW, and had climbed the corporate ladder?

The Engineers actually standing in court now are also high-ranking managers. They just also happen to be professional engineers.

Always ignoring the need for thoughtful and balanced research on the matter before forming an opinion seems to be the mantra. Reading more than the headline is hard, I know.

There are no people getting fired, just retiring people are not getting replaced.

I am far from the thought that this will be a lesson in humility to you though.

But still, it's a cut in the job pool available in these countries.

Over 10 years?

Where do you see "over 10 years"? It says "by 2020" and we are not in 2010, but in late 2016, so that's only 3 or 4 years.

"I don't care how you make it happen, i don't even want to know how you make it happen, but you will make it happen.."

CEO-Speech en coated gloves- they protect from responsibility, and reduce water costs if you got to wash your hands off.

Won't this increase the amount of work for the ones that remain ? Volkswagen increases time by 5% for all (610K total) ?

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