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It has added some half assed okish stuff into a language that is still massively hard to use, super ceremonious and all that for not a lot of security.

Yes it is better than a lot of things, but it is also a super low standard. It get things done if you are ready to deal with all its problem... But it is still the child of its history, and its shows.

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Java is easy to use once you understand it. I can code Java just as fast as C# or Python. In fact C# and Java are close enough to be mutually intelligible. The ceremony is all optional crap that most people don't worry about, it happens to any language used a lot in corporate.

The security issues were mostly in Java applets. The language itself is pretty damn secure. I can't remember the last time I saw a web exploitable issue in the JVM.

Well said. I'll add on that if you use a framework like Play with hot swap built in, you don't have to worry about restarts.

I'm messing with running Jersey on Jetty right now so I can get HTTP/2 before java 9. Netty and Jetty have both supported it for a while :)

There's still a lot of innovation going on in the Java community you just don't hear about it.

For Jersey + Jetty, it's hard to beat dropwizard (dropwizard.io). I'm sure you've heard of it though ;)

By security, i was more thinking of dealing with exceptions and error. I should have used Fault tolerance.

And i was not comparing Java to C# or Python here, but that is probably due to my personal background, which is more with OCaml, Erlang, C, Rust and co.

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