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Also because the issue essentially doesnt exist. A victim complex is a real thing and there are real victims. You must acknowledge both, not just the latter (or just the former for that matter.)

Sexism is real but severely overblown in my experience.

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Yes I think you may be right about this, but I also honestly feel like your standards for inflammatory content are only applied in one direction.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13831252

Heres an example of a thread where (in the second reply) I thought mikash was being inflammatory, but my expectation is that you wouldn't care! This I think highlights the "one direction" I'm trying to point out.

Is your experience that of a woman? If not, you really have no idea whether it's overblown or not.

By that logic, women can never know if there is sexism because they don't have all that mythical privilege to compare it to. I'd love to see one time ... one time.. there be a focus on the disparity between men and women in waste services, janitorial services, etc. We accept they don't prefer those jobs but suddenly in tech (since it became sexy) its now a problem?

>I'd love to see one time ... one time.. there be a focus on the disparity between men and women in waste services, janitorial services, etc.

Why?

>We accept they don't prefer those jobs but suddenly in tech (since it became sexy) its now a problem?

You answered this yourself. One of the fields is desirable and the other isn't so of course there is going to be more concern about the desirable one.

Can only women be victims of sexism then?

Plenty of people actually have this position, "you can only be racist or sexist if you have power", i.e you belong to the dominant sex or race.

The truth is that power is based on wealth and class, not your gender, race, or ethnicity.

There's a difference between racism and bias. We're all biased, but racism is an ideology that subordinate races are inferior, and that's why they're subordinate.

Also, there are many ways that wealth and class are derived from gender and race.

>There's a difference between racism and bias. We're all biased, but racism is an ideology that subordinate races are inferior, and that's why they're subordinate.

Yes, that's what I consider the true definition of racism, but that is not the definition of racism that's currently being used in contemporary American political discourse.

>Also, there are many ways that wealth and class are derived from gender and race.

Sure, but they are overwhelmingly hereditary.

Definitely not. Men are also the victims of sexism. But the world is (and has been) controlled by men in most societies. Women suffer the most from sexism, so knowing the scope of sexism requires being a woman.

This is a horrible argument to make, because you're basically saying that a woman could never feel that sexism is overblown.

Do you really think no women in the world think that the talk of sexism is overblown?

If so, I'm curious what other opinions you believe women aren't allowed to have?

So I'm barred from having an opinion because I'm not a woman? Perhaps rather than my "experience" I should have said "real life observations." Regardless, so be it, but don't expect my support if you ever end up wanting it.

You're not barred from having an opinion at all. I'm just saying that you don't have good information behind your opinion.

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