Just as an aside, your comment was among the most complete I've ever seen. It addressed almost every caveat that I could have though up!
Just as an aside, your comment was among the most complete I've ever seen. It addressed almost every caveat that I could have though up!
I didn't see the OP was judging anyone but describing a type they perceived was only interested in development as a stepping stone to something else.
In fact you yourself seem to be completely judgmental and also condescending telling someone:
>" ... you haven't met a huge amount of people to make that assumption, or have interacted with people in other great places to work"
You seem to have no issue passing your own judgement however by telling someone that their opinion is "degrading this forum." That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
But for the sake of argument, while I don't deny that India has some star developers, I think it's incorrect to suggest that there isn't a huge section in it for reasons _other_ than a pure love of computers. Many do it because they need the money, or need a stopgap before they go on to do other things etc. I stand by what I said.
Finally, I'm not sure why you're implying that maybe _I'm_ a feet dragger and that I need to work on improving the company I keep. I thought my comment was fairly mild and inoffensive.
You're not paid for doing that. Please stop.
It's only a problem if the employer starts treating this as the norm, and expects to sacrifice their personal time. Then it's time to find a new employer.
The fastest way to get promoted when you are young or low on the ladder is to leave your company, not to climb up.
Your future companies won't know and won't care what time you put in.
The (good) reason to take work home is not to suck up. That's crappy strategy. The good reason to take work home is that it's practice. The sooner you put in the hours, the sooner you can get-and-keep the better jobs. Obviously there's a limit to personal endurance, and so just pushing yourself to grind out 80 low-quality hours per week is insanity. But taking work home, selected with the intention of improving your own skills, is often good advice for getting ahead. Hustle correlates with prosperity.
You're right, though, that if _I_ take work home, that you, user5994461, are thereby disadvantaged in the market. Thus I assume that your imperious demand that others not pursue career success is a cynical ploy to improve your position.
Since career success is linked firsts and foremost to negotiating offers and following a career plan, I demand that you negotiate better and follow a more aggressive growth plan! It will give you more returns for less efforts than long hours.
I am on the high end of the spectrum, I actually need others to pursue their career success better in a cynical ploy to improve my position. ;)