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Notice that there is no data presented for the "flop" assertion, merely anecdote. Last quarter, Apple reversed four quarters of declining Mac sales, increasing units shipped slightly despite substantially increasing the price of Macbook Pros: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3164132/apple-mac/mac-e....

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A few days ago John Gruber linked to a Twitter poll where like/dislike for the Touch Bar was split 50/50:

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/04/03/twitter-poll-tou...

If half your userbase likes something, you can't really call it a flop. But I'd argue you can't really call it a success if half your userbase dislikes it either.

While it's not really an Apple thing to do, the results of this poll suggest to me that Apple should make the Touch Bar an option, and not something you are required to get if you want a high-end laptop.

Twitter polls are only useful as a tool for demonstrating how polls with self-selected participation are utterly useless.

A lot of the customer base is going to be relatively set in its ways - they won't like anything that changes the way the interact with their mac unless it's a bona fide home run. I would consider 50% a pretty good number and expect it to rise over time.

Disagree. I'm avoiding the Touch Bar for the same reasons that this article mentions. I'm sure the media and artist group might like it, but touch typists and devs in general don't. The regular feedback I encounter is very meh to bleh on the TB.

I always find the quantity of magazine spam on apple is pretty astounding

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