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I wonder how Victor's Realtalk project will incorporate his interest into visual programming: https://harc.ycr.org/project/realtalk/

Also, for anyone interested it looks like he just posted on HN for the first time under user 'worrydream'.

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It's going to be entirely different I feel. Instead of manipulating graphics on a flat screen, focus will probably be on manipulating physical objects on a table / in a room.

Watch his 2 talks that highlight the thinking and inspiration behind the RealTalk project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klTjiXjqHrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agOdP2Bmieg

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