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Went to July 4th BBQ and someone had brought their dog. "Oh, be careful, he's a jumper." By default, most dogs are jumpers. So what this person was actually announcing to the rest of us is "I have failed to train this dog, and I accept no responsibility for that failure, nor any consequences for it." There were children present and I am very grateful that our hosts asked the person to take their dog away. The abject cluelessness of bringing a "jumper" to party with children to watch fireworks is beyond me.

The article makes light of dog bites. "Fear of a dog bite resulted in a child getting shot." I have a family member with permanent disfiguration from a dog bite. Dog bites are serious and can result in permanent disability or death. Likewise, bullet wounds are serious. How we arrive at the conclusion that the police are the problem is nonsense. Clearly the dogs are the problem. Dog owners: Do not bring your volatile, weaponized AI into public spaces. I've witnessed 100lb persons lose control of a 150lb dog. And people were surprised. Dog bites child's face off. "How did this happen?" Bonus points for complaining about gun control while being pulled around by "my big babywaby".

Did author manage to find one incident where the action appeared to be unjustified? Sure. Take care of it. But that doesn't magically make the problem of uncontrolled violent animals in public spaces a bad-policing issue.

I got bit a neighbor's dog when I was 5. I have very dim memories of it (because it's been a billion years) but he knocked me down and bit me on the back while a group of us were running away.

I got home crying and my dad took me back to confront the owner. According to my dad, we were standing in his yard and he had the dog on a leash. He tried to explain that his dog was friendly and let go of the leash. The first thing the dog did was come over and bite my wrist. (I do remember that part!)

Apparently 5-year-old me was bacon flavored or something.

Most of the reports they discuss in the article are dogs being shot in private homes and yards, not public property

BTW: If you think this was an exception, you are dead wrong. It's very common for cops to kill a suspects dogs when serving an arrest warrant at their property. The victims often say their dog wasn't aggressive, the cops always say it was. This footage is a reminder that sometimes the cops lie.

But the bigger problem is the war on drugs. It gave us "no knock warrants". So cops bust down your front door without notice, and have murdered hundreds of innocent homeowners doing it at the wrong address or on a bogus warrant, when the homeowner reaches for a gun not knowing if it's a home invasion robbery or not.

How many dogs do you think they've killed doing no knock raids? Any dog that is there.

  murdered hundreds of innocent homeowners doing it at the wrong address or on a bogus warrant

Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/18/us/forced-ent...

The cop lied about the dogs behavior. These dogs weren't aggressive.

Doesn't that seem to indicate to you that it's not the first time cops killed dogs that aren't dangerous and then lied about it?

> Did author manage to find one incident where the action appeared to be unjustified?

Um, how about the incident that was the focus of the article?

> Dog owners: Do not bring your volatile, weaponized AI into public spaces.

Weaponized AI?

> How we arrive at the conclusion that the police are the problem is nonsense.

I think the last paragraph of the article is justified:

> If there are no consequences for filing police reports that do not reflect what actually happened, expect America’s police officers to keep filing them at the current rate.

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