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This is really cool. We're a one-man shop (me) that uses Heroku though. Even though I can get on AWS or GCP really quickly with this (but probably not because we have a Rails back-end and React/Express front-end), I wouldn't then know how to best leverage/manage it. So this is a bit of a non-starter for me.

So far I'm seeing this as useful for side projects at most. The layer isn't opaque enough where I can troubleshoot serious issues and its too new to know there won't be any. More layers add more complexity in the early stages, over time though this could get quite compelling.

But it is a really cool thing.

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Yea their every cloud is pretty limited. The world isn't limited to AWS/GCP. For VM hosting, there's Vultr, DigitalOcean, Linode. And for app hosting you have Heroku, Jelastic, et. al.

It's difficult to create something that works universally since the APIs can be radically different. Terraform is a nice attempt to plug in different hosting solutions and configuration layers (puppet, anisble, chef), but your configuration still varies pretty heavily per provider and I've often struggled with it enough that I gave up and just wrote scripts to call my providers API directly.

"Aside from "Function as a Service" providers, we also are working hard on bringing the Now experience to container management solutions such as Kubernetes. These systems provide a lot of power to their administrators, but typically don't offer a great "last mile" experience for product developers and designers."

I'm looking forward to this.

I'm running a one-man shop too. And I deployed many websites to Digital Ocean/Vultures with the help of Docker machine, 5 minutes from starting the VPS to the website is ready

I've also done this with Dokku specifically and it was really cool. The project has probably matured a lot since then (8+ months ago) but...I do have a pretty high level of trust in Heroku that's been hard to erode.

(Waiting for all the comments saying I shouldn't have that trust in t-minus...)

Yep. Dokku is another option since you've work with Heroku before. But Heroku is so expensive.

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