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I think we need a swift and damning response to this. I'd rather have an even worse walled garden than the Apple 'App Store' than deal with having to worry about my source code getting stolen to be used by some stupid cloud service. I don't even want data collection in my text editor; maybe from the vendor its acceptable but not N times for each plugin. I now feel compelled to vet the network usage of any plugin I install.

Thanks, Kite. I'll make sure to remember this in case anyone ever considers your service.

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Agreed. Also this should be the kind of stuff that gets the founders and employees blackballed in the industry as well.

Completely morally bankrupt. All of them.

Just like installmonetizer and all those associated with them, right?

Silicon Valley/the broader tech scene is going to look pretty empty if we do that to every employee of every company that has done shady stuff.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I wish our world worked like that, but unfortunately blackballing requires that the median participants of a group have some sort of moral compass.

I gave up hope for such things after seeing staff, investors, and speculators tripping over their own dicks to invest in Brendan Eich's latest venture (Brave) and its ICO, with full knowledge of his revolting and public bigotry against gay people.

Money trumps morals, it seems.

The case with Brendan Eich's past donations is a troubling one, but I also found the way he was forced out of Mozilla questionable and also keep in mind that despite having this black mark on him, he's done many good things too and is not known to have done anything oppressive against anyone since then, yes troubling, but I also think that every person, even less accomplished one, has something they should be ashamed of in their past, so I don't agree that we should hold this one incident against him for the rest of his life, unless he does something to warrant it.

It's free speech whether you like it or not and I don't think your tactics of playing hardball with Eich or any other skeptic of gay rights would win him over to your cause as it foments feelings of resentment and discontent and likely lead to counter-productive results.

"It's free speech whether you like it or not"

So was the people calling for him to resign.

But that's the exact same situation, right?

Kite's business model is just as legal as Eich's free speech money. But people still think it's wrong, and so they try to find ways to discourage others to act similarly.

I'm not completely sure if such punishment works, but I'm pretty sure that if it works for Each, it will work for Kite, and vice versa.

It's not the same thing.

Kite's business model is attack against open source, thus pertinent to tech.

Eich's view on marriage is completely unrelated and attacks on his professional career for this are abhorrent and juvenile and should be condemned rather than encouraged. Even if you disagree with Eich's stance (which for the record I do).

Oh please, Brandon chucking Javascript together has caused more pain than his questionable funding of certain interests.

Are you serious? Eich wrote it for Netscape in 10 days. If you want to blame anyone, blame those at Netscape who only gave him a week and a half. He did a phenomenal job given the situation.

If we have to lynch somebody for JS, I would prefer to start with IE6 development team.... I still have PSTD /s

Thanks for mentioning Brave. I've really been enjoying using it as a browser. Typing this response on it right now. Really hope it gets some traction as it's a cool idea.

I think your claim of "bigotry" is a bit overstated and I don't really care about people's political views in this context.

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