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Is there any evidence it's a sales flop? Seems like Mac sales are up, but they don't break the numbers down by device type. I want the same things you do, but unfortunately it seems pretty unlikely to happen (except for 32GB I suppose).

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The whole world was screaming for a new Apple laptop with better performance. Imagine how many more sales they would have made if Apple had not had the touch bar, kept one legacy USB A port and hdmi port, better battery life, updated specs and priced it lower than the older models. It would have sold even better.

Indeed. I bought a 2015 pro. I needed it then, but was prepared to upgrade as soon as a new one came out.

Kept the 2015 version. Am waiting to see what comes next. I don't want a touch bar, and I don't relish getting a half/dozen dongles for all my peripherals.

So I'm an invisible sale they should have had, but didn't.

I'm in the same boat. For the first time in a long time I don't want to upgrade my MBP. For as long as I can remember I've always lusted after the next big thing; now I'm just hoping my laptop doesn't have any problems and I won't be forced to purchase a new one. :/

Exactly this. Expanded the SSD in my late 2014 MBP recently. At least that's still possible. Just praying now that it won't break down.

He didn't say sales flop.

Why would they care about any other kind of flop?

Because their users who are buying the device are doing so in spite of the Touchbar. MacBook Pro wasn't updated for such a long time that the Touchbar doesn't matter, there's a lot of pent up demand. But now people know it's kinda annoying in its current implementation. Make sense?

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