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Or you could just, use a secure anonymous coin like say monero and forget all this time consuming effort to try and anonymous a non anonymous coin.

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Once Monero is accepted more widely, sure.

you mean, like bitcoin isn't?

You might be surprised at what's available for Bitcoin. Servers and VPN services. Consultants. Plus stuff via dark markets.

So the very niche market. I guess my point is, still bitcoin is mostly speculation - the stuff you talk about wouldn't add up to billions of dollars of marketcap, for example.

Yes, of course it's mostly speculation.

But it's funny for someone on HN to be characterizing what I mentioned as "niche market". I mean, what more than capital, servers and consultants does one need for a startup?

Why do you need bitcoin for that? I don't see the relation.

You might want it for privacy.

Bitcoin is not designed for privacy. Period. Monero is.

Yup. So is its little brother aeon.

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