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Comment by friedButter | Hacker News Reader

(Removed before you folks flag it and ban me)

I view it differently. If it's not appropriate in the sense that it's harassment for any possible mix of employees (by gender, ethnicities, etc.), it's simply not appropriate period.

Practical example: LGBT related videos most likely are viewed as harassment by Islam believers. Now choose which views you take as truth.

That's not a practical example. It's vague and stereotypes "Islam believers." If anything your comment is an example of harassment of muslims, not what you're trying to imply.

I'm just saying that there is an unsolved conflict of interests and values. And I don't see a good way to solve it any time soon. Everything will offend someone somewhere, just blindly saying "don't do anything offending" doesn't help anyone. Instead we should take a stance and hold it, even if it's offending someone.

It just happens to be that Islam interests are contradicting to western values: if we take it to extreme we need to ban pork everywhere. This is one of unsolved examples: if pork is offending, do we serve pork? Or we stop serving pork just because part of the group finding it offending? I don't see a clear answer :(

The context of discussion is harassment, not simply "being offended."

The article considers being "offended" equivalent to harassment

>Made remarks that some might consider sexist or offensive?

I suppose there is some room for interpretation left by the article, but when I read "sexist or offensive" I don't think "sexist or (anything unrelated to sex that is) offensive". I think "sexist or (sexually, in the sense of harassment, sexism, etc.) offensive". There's no good reason, in my view, to take the broader sense of "offended" as the meaning behind "offensive" here.

Poor and contrived, stereotypical example. That said, the correct and safest answer is not sharing videos at work and just working.

If having the 10 men and 10 women means inappropriate videos aren't shared at work, maybe it's a net gain because everyone's working and doing their job instead of sharing videos.

I'm a man and it's totally not OK. For me this is a proof of having no basic respect for >50% of people for very shallow reasons. Having jerks at work is a net overhead (regardless how brilliant).

If you're going to make some kind of controversial statement, at least have the minimal courage necessary to stand behind it and take the consequences. This is just an internet forum after all, and you're not even posting under your real name.

Now... you just seem like a fool and a coward and it's likely your destructive edit is going to get you flagged even harder.

Yeah, looks like it was a bad decision. I'm not too active here,but HN seems quite intolerant to uncomfortable questions in comments, will stick to just reading posts here.

In the long run, it's better to lose some meaningless internet points than to permanently wreck the readability of the thread.

Well the other POV is that if a comment contributed positively to a thread, it would have a positive score. A negative score means that the thread would be better without the comment

Not necessarily true. Unpopular comments can turn out to be correct and important. Challenging questions that are initially unpopular can spawn interesting subthreads, and comments that are initially downvoted can end up being upvoted back into positive territory once enough of the community has had a chance to have their say.

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