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To be honest, suspend still doesn't work properly, even in the latest version of Windows 10.

Usually system manufacturer's fault. A recent example where I work is Lenovo's recommended Intel wireless driver (the one on the Lenovo site) was over six months old and had known issues with causing machines to not be able to wake from suspend. Installing the drivers directly from Intel resolved the problem.

That's pretty much the best case scenario. A lot of chipmakers (Conexant, Jmicron, Intel in many cases) don't allow you to download drivers directly from them. So you are stuck with whatever the OEM provides. In some cases I've found that newer model laptops by the same OEM use the same audio/media controllers under the hood in some case and I can use the newer driver from the updated model.

Lenovo and Dell. Never again.

My next computer will be something from Microsoft's Surface line. They seem to be the only manufacturer who can make proper devices (everything working and power bricks which last more than 6 months - thanks Apple).

>everything working

I wouldn't ascribe anything that generous that to a surface device as long as they still use the marvel wireless cards, which have a storied history of causing hardware connectivity problems[0]. I largely enjoyed my Surface Pro 3 but frequently had the same issues. The Surface Book seems to have issues with sensing connectivity between the keyboard and screen, as well. Anecdotal, at work we even had a developer hololens go paperweight because the wifi stopped signalling. MS told us to junk it, unrepairable.

[0]https://www.google.com/search?q=marvell+wifi+surface+problem...

I've had a few Dell's over the years and have never had a problem with them. The trick at first was to buy from their business line - no bloatware and better support. Now I just buy from the Microsoft Store and they come with no non MS bloatware. My 2-1 Dell is a pretty good computer. I just wish it had a 3:2 display instead of 16:9.

everything working and power bricks which last more than 6 months - thanks Apple

Face it, sample amounts being so big, you're not going to find anything which always worked for everybody. Anecdotally, having worked for a Dell-only place and typing this on a 7-year old XPS, I never encountered severe issues. Only standard hardware problems caused by wear (HD/memory/keyboard keys failing after +5 years of usage).

Lol, yep. My Win 10 desktop will suspend just fine, but then it wakes itself up for no apparent reason and just stays running indefinitely after that. I can't figure out what the cause is, but I've taken to just shutting it down in between uses.

I'm a frequent sleeper and I depend on the feature. Next time your machine wakes up by itself, go to a DOS prompt and type "powercfg -lastwake" That will tell you how it happened.

For me, part of the solution was to go into the device manager and edit the properties for my mouse and my network controller. On the "power management" tab I disabled the "allow this device to wake up the computer" option. I only use the keyboard to wake the PC.

Additionally, when I left the machine sleeping overnight, there was some scheduled task that would occasionally wake the machine. There is a way to disable that, but I forget the specifics.

Cool, I'll try that sometime. I'm traveling for the next couple of weeks, so it'll be too late to report back here, but thanks in advance.

I really wouldn't be bothered by occasional wakeups if it would go back to sleep afterwards...

My computer does it, and typing in powercfg -lastwake just says "unknown source". I've disabled every wake event, update service, wake-on-lan, disabled the ability of my mouse and keyboard to wake my computer up, and it still does it.

VirtualBox for example uses something called "wake timers" that wake up the machine right after it goes to sleep.

This. I was playing Starcraft before bed, and just shut my laptop to suspend it... it was suspended until about 4 hours later, when, in the middle of the night my wife and I were awoken by sounds of zerglings dying. Very unpleasant, and quite surprising.

I've been fighting with this literally since Windows 10 came out. My desktop PC wakes up every night, around midnight/1am, and will not go back to sleep. I've disabled everything single wake event in windows, there is no wake-on-lan(as a matter of fact it does it with lan unplugged and ethernet disabled). Looking in the power events just says the computer woke up due to "unknown source". It does not do it with Windows 7.

I had the same issue. I think, your keyboard/mouse are allowed to wake up from sleep automatically and some glitch gives your desktop the impression that a key was hit. If you disable this in the device manager, this issue should be resolved.

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