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This isn't a permanent thing, it's 'up to one year'. Not much different than what we have in Ohio...any drug charge and your driver's license is suspended for a minimum of 6 months. It's ridiculous, yes, but it's hardly the level of totalitarianism you're describing.

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Yeah but losing your driver's license for a DUI or drug charge is a specific defined consequence for a specific behavior. It's not something that happens because you have crossed a line on some nebulous "social credit" scale.

A DUI is a much more serious crime. It's pretty ridiculous to have a mandatory license suspension for any quantity of marijuana possession. Regardless, what's described in this article is closer to this policy than it is to what OP described in my opinion.

There's a gigantic difference between losing your driver's license and not being allowed to take any kind of long-distance transportation.

Most of Ohio doesn't really have a good transportation alternative to driving, so it's actually pretty similar.

The guiding principle however appears to be "Once untrustworthy, always forbidden". That is an issue.

That seems like what happens once you have a felony in U.S.

I mean that a felony removes your right to vote, makes employment much more difficult.

How does whataboutism about bad US policy improve the nature or standing of China's bad policy?

"muh whataboutism"

You're not even using this term correctly. Not that hardly anyone is since it's become popular...but still. Whataboutism is a very specific thing, and every time someone draws a comparison it doesn't automatically become whataboutism.

I merely bring it up because it's something we can improve in the U.S. It does not excuse China, which seems to go two steps further down a bad road.

> I merely bring it up because it's something we can improve in the U.S. It does not excuse China, which seems to go two steps further down a bad road.

However, the actual effect of bring that up is to:

1) Blunt criticism of this newly implemented Chinese policy.

2) Distract everyone from it with a debate about US policy.

No one's talking about improving the US OR China here. Because of the whataboutism, we're derailing on if the two are morally comparable or not, which suits the Chinese authoritarians just fine.

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