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Do we know the vehicle didn't brake? There's no audio to tell us anything, and a car takes "almost a second" to rock forward on its suspension when reacting to brake input too. FWIW, I think I might see the nose bobbing a bit just before the collision, but honestly can't tell.

I certainly don't think you can say "did not attempt to brake" based on the evidence at hand, basically.

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> Do we know the vehicle didn't brake?

Because the nose of the car doesn't go down. Especially in an emergency braking situation the nose of the car will go significantly down, and you would see that in the video.

The video is cut before the impact. I don't think we can judge of what will happen in the last second that is missing.

There definitely isn't a full second missing before impact. Maybe a tenth of a second.

The video is cut as the person is a few feet from being struck by the car. That's not "the last second" that's basically at the point of impact and already much too late

Yes, that was in the original announcement

Literally every other statement of fact in the original police announcement was proven false by this video.

Indeed. Uber was clearly able to spin the early reports about this incident; there is little correspondence between those descriptions and this video. Corruption in Tempe.

The victim had absolutely no business crossing that road like that, but the notion that the fatality was somehow unavoidable is pure bunk.

Individual actors all working within the same values system and responding to the same inputs will produce similar actions. There's no conspiracy or "quid pro quo" corruption here, most likely, merely a corrupt values system. In a place like tempe pedestrians and bicyclists are treated as second class citizens, especially in the case of crashes involving automobiles. In this particular case there is a walkway on the median strip which is purely decorative and marked with signs indicating not to use it, which should tell you how pedestrian hostile the area is.

Here's where the crash took place: https://goo.gl/maps/j6PwGkvJwF52

Yeah, I noticed that too, it's about the most asinine bit of roadway design imaginable other than some sort of chute leading to the rotating knives.

from the interior view it doesnt look like the car braked abrubtly

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