Hacker News Reader

Comment by mulmen | Hacker News Reader

To me the value of a Mac is not macOS. It’s having a complete device solution that just works.

I don’t want to fight with my workstation all the time. I want to use it to do... work.

I have been battling Apple about my 2013 mac pro for a year. You have to be careful about the monitors you buy because Apple will say it's not their problem when your monitor knocks your wifi offline (personally) or some weird shit. Personally, I think for anyone deliberating between an iMac Pro and a Mac Pro, you should go with the iMac Pro because Apple has always been an all-in-one company--it's one of the few things they are still good at these days. I used to work on the older mac pros in high school and never had problems, but those days are over. If I knew hardware well enough to fix it I would have gone Hackintosh.

I used to have a '14 RMBP with the Apple display and it was wonderful. Now I have a '17 13" MBP and it only has two USB ports so I have a third party dock and monitors because Apple doesn't offer a solution. The entire experience is awful but still more reliable than any Windows laptop I have ever run, although the gap is closing.

Hackintosh doesn't work for me because my business isn't fixing laptops. Apple used to provide a full solution and it was really great.

Hackintosh run very stable these days even more so now with Clover. But you need to have fun at doing that

Yeah I get it, I even consider that kind of thing fun in my spare time although I have other hobbies these days. In a professional (corporate) environment I don't have time to fix my laptop. I'm lucky to work in a place that has an outstanding IT department who provides what we need (including outstanding Macintosh support) but a Hackintosh is not on the list.

I am also sure the legal department would shut down a hackintosh real quick.

You can't knock everything else just because it's not a Mac. I've personally had my fair share of Mac problems and when I worked Help Desk we had our fair share of Mac Laptop problems that were comparable if not greater than our failure rate of Thinkpad's. This was in 2017 too.

I’m not knocking it because it’s not a Mac. I’m saying when Apple sells a complete solution it is generally trouble free.

That may have been the case 5 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. I work in a mostly mac office and not a single one of my mac fanboy coworkers has a single nice thing to say about the 2017 macbook pros.

Right because it's just a laptop and you have to buy a bunch of other stuff from third parties to go with it. I explained this in a sibling comment.

In 2014 Apple would sell you a monitor that doubled as a dock which worked great with the RMBP and Apple's own wireless KB and Mouse and even Time Machine.

Today you're stuck with USB-C docks which are pretty awful. Pretty much on par with a Dell or HP laptop dock. The new Macbook Pros are the worst device I have used from Apple.

The thread you are replying to is about hackintoshes. The point of a Mac for me is that it Just Works (tm). If I want to fight with something I'll buy a Thinkpad and install Ubuntu. I have no interest in fighting with macOS, it's only useful to me if it is easy.

> Right because it's just a laptop and you have to buy a bunch of other stuff from third parties to go with it.

No. Their complaints are about the laptop itself. The keys are constantly breaking. The software constantly crashes. We're all a bunch of consulting devs and the 2017 macbook pros have cost every single one of them at least a week's worth of billable hours in the past 6 months. Most of them have gone back to their 2015 models.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com