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If Boise is happy to deal with an influx of Californians, they can have at it. I'd rather they go there than migrate up the West Coast, bringing their far right politics with them.

A year or so ago I was near San Diego, and turning on the radio I got an earful about how finding a new strongman to head the police department was the #1 duty of the city. Seemed absolutely ridiculous to me, but the culture down in Cali is that of beating down on the dirty poors, then acting surprised with the consequences like the hepatitis outbreak: https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/14/health/hepatitis-a-outbreak-s...

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I’ve heard a lot of things about California transplants (being one myself), but being far right is one I haven’t yet heard.

I have. One contingency of those leaving are those upset at the liberal politics of the state. So they head elsewhere, and influence local politics in a conservative manner. I remember reading about another town in Idaho where that was happening (a lakeside town?)

California is massive, and it isn’t all SF and LA. You’d think that electing Schwarzenegger governor would have been a hint as to some political leanings! California has a sizeable rural community, which is typical Right wing.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automatio...

I grew up in the red state part - I haven’t seen the mass exodus though, people have tended to stick to their towns. Mostly people fleeing the coastal cities.

Acres don't vote, thankfully :-) 74% of California's delegation - 39 of 53 - are Democrats.

Those angry rural people do leave California in droves though, to Oregon and Washington in the past. They've dealt significant damage to our local politics in the past, the fear of Californians is well founded.

Those that like California are less apt to leave in large numbers, as compared to those on the margins of politics/the economy (eg: in stable or shrinking industries, with different political beliefs).

California is a big a diverse place, and a lot more reflective of America than places that typically talk about how they’re “Real America.”

Horseshoe theory in action.

California is diverse and populous. There are enough far right voters in California that if they were to migrate en masse they would totally overwhelm their destination. They're also more likely to migrate, being the most irked by California's current one-party government. As a personal anecdote I happen to know a small businessman who moved from Fremont, California, to Oregon because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell.

But anyway, just remember that population is very important. You might think New York is liberal but there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama.

> there are more Trump voters in New York City than there are total voters in Alabama.

I agree with your general point, but the above seems grossly inaccurate.

NYC had ~500k Trump voters, whereas Alabama had 1.3M Trump voters and ~2M voters in total.

https://www.amny.com/news/elections/nyc-voter-turnout-was-55...

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/numbers/clinton-trump-presi...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_ele...

Yup you are right. I did not mean to say "New York City" in the second case, I meant to just say "New York" the state, in which 2.8M people voted for Trump.

What's the point of the comparison though? New York state has over 4X the population of Alabama, and the rural areas of NY are just as you'd expect them to be.

>because those gosh darn overbearing regulators in Fremont wanted his employees to stop being severely injured. That's your basic right-wing migrant in a nutshell.

Lazy strawman

Most of the Californians who went to Oregon in the 1980s lobbied for right wing policies in the new places they moved to (which created a number of issues), hence the fear of those disillusioned with California leaving and bringing destructive political views with them that could seriously harm wherever they move.

Edit: Downvoting me doesn't make the long term effects of what ex-Californians did to Eastern Oregon go away, small towns in Eastern Oregon are still hamstrung by policies and decisions implemented in that era by ex-Californians.

Here's a crazy notion: maybe political philosophies aren't a one size fits all, but different approaches work well in different times and places?

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