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You terribly exagerate. Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right. I fear they got where they are by doing some false turns like a global lock in the compositor and client side decorations.

Your systemd utterings completely lack any architectural or technological reasoning

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I'm not concerned with architectural concerns but usability. The end user, me included doesn't really care if it's Wayland or X underneath, as long as it works properly and is productive. Really anything behind the toolkit is of no concern to me.

I'm not going to turn this into a debate on systemd but they managed to win the "Lamest vendor response" prize at the 2017 Pwnies. And clearly you've never been with a system down and got greeted with "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Operation not permitted" and no log entries at all. Yes adding complexity to a risky process was a fantastic idea.

The user will care when gnome-shell crashes and takes out their entire session, or when their cursor is lagging/skipping.

Gnome-shell wayland session still needs a lot of work imo.

> which gets Wayland somewhat right

Wayland has been in development for 10 year, let's hope they fix it in the next 10.

> Actually Gnome3 is currently the only desktop environment which gets Wayland somewhat right.

Maybe true, but Ubuntu 18.04 has reverted to Xorg as standard?

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