Over here we don't consider that healthcare and education are a "government benefit". We consider them rights.
But you sound slightly offended. Like now you're trying to prove that some people like the USA. You don't have to prove anything dude.
I'm not going to ban you, because your recent history hasn't been as bad as this, but if you do this sort of flamewar on HN again, we will ban you. Please do not pour any trace of nationalistic poison, regardless of how badly other users are behaving. If you do, you're as bad as they are. This of course goes for every user, not just you.
Please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and do a much better job of using this site as intended from now on.
I obviously disagree with the characterisation of what I said as "nationalistic poison", but I will no longer talk politics on HN to be on the safe side.
I dont know that the second is necessarily bad, but it is an interesting distinction. However, it may be a false distinction. Child care leave may not require taking from the employer so much as establish that if the employer wants an employee’s work, a fair trade includes leave.
Like I said, I haven’t fully thought this one through.
I hear you, but I think the distinction isn't great because it's A) semantic more than anything, and B) too easy to take it into the realm of mental gymnastics, to the point the distinction loses all meaning. I could just as well argue that X right may not require taking from other people (in the form of taxes) so much as establish that if you want to be a part of our society (after all, no one is stopping you from leaving and go live in the jungle), a fair trade (i.e. the taxes you pay for the benefits you get) involves your taxes paying for X, and that this is true for all X.