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I'm not really interested in buddhism, but have practiced meditation. I have to say meditation itself brings a great calmness, especially for my anxiety, and I was quite skeptical when it was recommended.

I think meditation should be examined outside of the scope of eastern mysticism, it need not be associated with it.

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> I think meditation should be examined outside of the scope of eastern mysticism, it need not be associated with it.

While there is always an airy of "hoaky mysticism" to most religions, one possible self-consistent explanation is that that this "hoaky mysticism" of eastern religions might in fact be the logical consequence of thousands of hours, days, weeks, months, years, of meditation. Maybe western self improvement is just in fact a precursor to a precursor to the final enlightenment that hey, none of this self-improvement shit matters?

>Maybe western self improvement is just in fact a precursor to a precursor to the final enlightenment that hey, none of this self-improvement shit matters?

These are hardly new concepts in the West. It's even in Ecclesiastes.

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