i suppose I'm not surprised, but i had hoped things would be different.
It's a pity because this is probably the most important issue of our time and it's going to take an engineering/scientific approach to solve it - so I think it's highly relevant to HN. There are some sharp minds on here. It should be hotly debated and the ranking algorithm should be able to take the heat.
We need to change the culture to make the necessary sacrifices to get things done but, as you can see, human nature is hard to change.
I do believe that there is a lot of things coming from mainstream media we have to dismiss, and it seems some of these things are now been publicly defended against public discredit. The same way the mass media lie to us today, their ancestors lied to ours. It is natural and healthy to pursuit lies of the past, it is a shame that some people are trying to put it as a negative behavior.