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Poor Leadership is also the number one cause for parting ways with a company.

For me personally, there was never another reason to leave a company. I never experienced a toxic environment or had colleagues i couldn't stand. It was always the leadership

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You've never experienced inconsiderate coworkers? Like coworkers who talk loudly on the phone in a nearby work area, coworkers with hygiene issues, coworkers who don't carry their weight or respond well to training?

I did, but these kind of problems were (at least for me) manageable (discussing the issues, "avoiding" these people, etc).

It's entirely possible to have had none of these issues when you only worked for a few years or in a few companies.

All of these issues should be addressed by the manager.

Or potentially addressed directly. I've had a couple occasions where I literally told a sexual harassing manager to "go fuck himself" twice. (He was harassing the women at the office) At another company I was politely confronted about a comment I had made, we talked it out. It was unintentionally insulting and we acted as adults and I realized why he brought it up.

Well, there's a big gulf between "toxic" or "impossible to stand" and mere "inconsiderate".

You've never left a job because you wanted more money than they were willing/able to offer?

Compensation is really two things. A) The work you do is valuable but your poorly compensated because of management issues. B) You’re compensated well for the work you do, but you’re capable of doing more valuable work elsewhere.

Moving due to B is only needed in small companies, large ones generally have room for people to grow.

Although I agree that there exist (at least) these two compensation situations, I disagree with the subsequent assertion:

> Moving due to B is only needed in small companies, large ones generally have room for people to grow.

I have personally found, as have, I'm sure, many other people with an affinity for startups, that large companies can be quite limiting to growth, especially for certain careers/specialties.

especially for certain careers/specialties

I've found that while smaller startups are great if you want to learn to do 'everything', larger companies tend to be better if you want to focus on growing within one specific niche.

I'd agree with the first part, that smaller (earlier) startups may be better for learning more breadth, but there's still a pretty substantial range of sizes before reaching "large".

Startups, VC-funded in particular, tend to have the characteristic of very rapid growth, which can provide even specific/niche opportunities otherwise unavailable (on anywhere near the same time scale) at a large company.

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