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At the same time, it's also given women the ability to survive and exist in society without requiring them to be married or otherwise supported by a man.

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If that is your argument, I would say men have done a commendable job. They supported women for centuries while building a society that would eventually let women not be dependent on men.

They never needed to be dependent in the first place. We're probably centuries behind where we could have been if half the population had been allowed to contribute from the start.

We are centuries behind because we do not embrace the beauty of dimorphism. One sex complements the other. This is not a war for supremacy.

> This is not a war for supremacy

Tell that to generations of men that have used violence to stay on top. Hard not to consider it a war when it looks, talks, and walks like a duck.

A very few powerful men have been abusing other men for generations too. Women in such powerful families were no less abusive. Why are we ignoring the suffering of men?

Yes, great job, men! Seriously, is that comment supposed to be a joke or are you one of those red-pillers?

My point is: I'm not sure "supported" is quite the right word.

Why would it be a joke? Are you one of those man-haters?

Because it takes a very special type of daftness to think for centuries men were "supporting" women by not allowing them to work.

This world is built upon the dead bodies of men. Men who fought wars to protect their kin, men who fell from the top of buildings they were constructing, men who suffocated to death deep in the tunnels, or drowned in the ocean...

Let us not forget them. Let us not belittle their sacrifices.

I don't quite understand this. Many women worked in the fields, or at home, or giving birth. They suffered, I'm sure, just as much.

Haha. You know it was men who started all of those wars, right?

I absolutely would not suggest men have done a commendable job, because for much of that time women were basically treated as property.

That is a myopic view of history.

By giving up more freedom and time and being dependent on an employer? I think women should have the option, but my argument was that the option is no longer there, they HAVE to work now.

Being reliant on being married is NOT more freedom.

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