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> the lack of historical counterculture having any meaningful impact amongst the old world elitists

Hm? In want sense? New York City has spawned numerous countercultural movements. The beats, punk rock, hip hop, all originated in NYC.

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I mean, it's almost like arguing with someone whether or not the sky is blue. The idea the NYC has no meaningful counterculture is not only wrong, but ridiculously wrong at that. The Stonewall riots happened there for Christ's sake. It'd be sort of petulant to dismiss the cultural movements that have come out of NYC. Actually, you'd have to be really,I mean, unimaginably out-of-touch with reality to dismiss NYC counterculture.

It simply didn't contribute to its broader/VC/tech industries like how Silicon Valley was shaped, rendering this entire semantically debate moot.

Every place that wants to be the next silicon valley, or Silicon "lesser geographical/architectural structure", simply can't do it without the generational culture to support it.

I think those all grew organically without the analogue of "VC Money" backing them.

NYC: still old world elites and I like it

this observation still prevents creating what works about Silicon Valley

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