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#1 I find is not worse than C++, granted there's more complexity here than in Python but in terms of cleanness its ok IMHO. Because as you said there's nothing unnecessary. Rust addresses different problems than Python, so we should compare apples with apples.

On the second one you got me though, I find the macro syntax a bit horrible. Sometimes I just want simple text substitution.

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I'm comparing it to Haskell syntax for the same thing, which is much cleaner

Haskell does not have borrowing and lifetime specifiers though, which is what makes the Rust example more dense.

Haskell has nice syntax for generics, no stupid <> to forward declare type parameters

C++ templates also aren't winning any readability awards.

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