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And yet inexplicably 2 stroke scooters / bikes are still legal, which contribute the most air and noise pollution.

Still can't wrap my head around that.

Those 2-strokes are a menace. That they didn’t ban those demonstrates that the Paris “ban” is just political posturing rather than a desire for actual improvements. Not only are 2-strokes heavy polluters, they are the noisiest vehicles on the street.

I thought they where all banned in the EU for several years now certainly the last vespa 2 stroke was seems to have been made in 2005.

Well, you know, my vespa 50s from 1972 is still almost as good as new.

1990s 50cc japanese scooters are indestructible, esp. Hondas, as are later, early-2000s Yamaha/MBK 100cc models. They are not going anywhere until there appears a 80 kg, 12" wheel electric model that can go 100km on a single charge and carry two people at a cruise speed of 70-80 km/h. And charge from zero in at most 15 minutes.

I love the smell of burning 2T oil in the morning.

But your probably a scoterist who lovingly maintains and restores classic Vespa's and Lambrettas and only rides them in good weather.

I believe the expensive version on the electric vespa can do 100km

> They are not going anywhere until there appears ...

Check NIU, they are getting close.

are they actually the noisiest? don't all vehicles have to be measured under the same dB threshold?

Only scooters right? Bikes / motorcycles 2 stroke are dead and gone.

Nope, mopeds, bécanes and motorbikes - all still there, and incredibly annoying at 3 am in the morning.

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