Comment by stanfordkid | Hacker News Reader

Comment by stanfordkid | Hacker News Reader

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I think a lot of what you are saying makes sense. I'm looking at it from the reverse perspective: I've seen guys struggle through bootcamp and then make it in coding and land good jobs.

With that being said they were all quant majors in undergrad, and actually enjoyed coding.

I've also seen people with non-quant backgrounds land ok jobs doing menial coding (e.g working at an accounting firm on database stuff) ... but they are still making $50k-70k and happy about it... they got there by doing a coding bootcamp.

Those are the two categories I'm talking about. I'm guessing you probably work at a company like Facebook or Google -- and I agree those companies can't find good candidates that meet their bar. I've worked at those places myself.

> With that being said they were all quant majors in undergrad, and actually enjoyed coding.

Right, this is top edge of bootcamp folks, and these guys do get hired and do succeed.

You're talking about folks who completed a tough STEM degree and then switched to tech. These are the folks you know. But these are already pre-selected people. They were already in the top 1% "most likely to succeed" before they even set foot in the bootcamp.

You're missing the 99% who never went to college because they lacked the desire or ability to learn, then drifted into some skill-mill that took their money.

These are the majority of bootcamp graduates.

> I've also seen people with non-quant backgrounds land ok jobs doing menial coding (e.g working at an accounting firm on database stuff)

Ten bucks say these were non-quant college graduates, and probably a good college too. So now we're not talking about the top 1%, but probably top 5%.

What you're considering "menial coding" is just simpler jobs, but not really simple or brain-dead. That stuff gets automated... often by startups staffed by folks who went to Stanford CS.

Is there any other industry where people have to put up with this nonsense from hiring managers? You'd think a $100k javascript job was a partner at Goldman Sachs the way these guys talk about it.

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