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If by "in the dust" you mean the Chinese EVs are stuck in the dust where their batteries or engines failed, I would agree.

Nearly every non-Chinese transit agency that has purchased a Chinese-built mass transit EV has either severely downgraded their orders or cancelled them outright due to the abysmal quality of the vehicles. In states like CA, the vehicles are so unreliable they would be classified as lemons if purchased by consumers...

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Albuquerque resident, can confirm, we returned all the electric buses we ordered. Pretty sure one of them even broke down shortly after leaving the city.

Any sources on these? If they are that unreliable, how are they working so well in China? Of a few cities I have been to in the past few years, their taxi and buses have gone all electric. The whole city relies on them, I seriously doubt they have major reliability issues.

In China they have the power to disappear you if you rip off or otherwise embarrass the government. That tends to keep people in line when dealing with state agencies. In the West we have niceties like due process, especially for white collar crimes, and our punishments for such crimes are rarer and much less severe.

(And for those who don't believe me, read up on the 2 Canadians who were disappeared last week for non-crimes as a result of Canada-Chinese tensions.)

I heard there’s a third Canadian joining them just today.

here's an LA times article about metro's issues with byd buses: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-electric-buses-201...

They might just keep a lot of spare capacity to deal with the poor quality.

>Nearly every non-Chinese transit agency that has purchased a Chinese-built mass transit EV has either severely downgraded their orders or cancelled them outright due to the abysmal quality of the vehicles

Link? And does that go for transit companies outside the US? And for all the different Chinese bus companies, not just BYD? And what are the quality trends? Given the Chinese companies are competing with each other, I would expect quality to go up over time.

Do you have a link for stats or a wider study? I would love to share them , as my local gov also considers those buses

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