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>does anyone feel comfortable arguing that the reader will understand what is apparently the issue - the permission dialog was not clear enough?

There were leaked emails in which FB was discussing how to ACTIVELY ensure the updates for their app specifically obfuscated the fact that they were preventing the users from understanding what they were agreeing to, as it was bad PR, and Zuck authorizing with "yup do it"

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I think you're perhaps mixing two bad decisions into one. One is the decision relating to Android "read call log" permissions – this involves Michael LeBeau and Yul Kwon. The other is Justin Osofsky asking Mark Zuckerberg about shutting off Vine's Friends API access – for this, Zuckerberg personally gave the go-ahead. "Yup, go for it."

All from here: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/12/new-documents-show-fac...

I'm not on Zuck's side, and I'm not explicitly saying you're wrong, but this feels like a mix up of the response from Zuckerberg to blocking the Twitter API.

If you have a source for him saying "Yup do it" to an attempt at confusing their users on an agreement... that would be a big news story.

I'm looking for the actual emails - basically the discussion was about how to get a feature passively opted into by the user without letting the user know they were allowing that specific permission - and they discussed how to achieve this and then zuck approved the action.

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/british-parliament-faceb...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/06/facebook-knew-collect...

https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1071446556946001925

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