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I've not been able to find out why this is being cut.

By destroying a civil service manned service permanently, they open the door for some shitty contractor to take over at 10x cost.

Rick Santorum was always down on the NWS providing weather data to the public... as his pals were the people who own Accuweather.

Even working for a govt contractor, I don't get the impetus to get rid of federal employees and hire contractors at 10x the price. Ive talked with one of my colleagues who came from federal, and said if you call an agency, 95% of them are actually contractors. Even the OMB and clearance work is done by primarily contractors. The fact that we outsource our security apparatus blows my mind.

I mean, sure there is corruption, which should be charged appropriately. (To be honest, I like how the Chinese handle corrupt govt officials - get hauled out in the public streets, and shot. I don't like how they dont get a fair trial.)

That's the only way to bypass government pay scales.

So in other words, it sounds like a Peter Principle but applied to government pay control.

The incompetent ones stay with government because they couldn't get a job in corporate, and are stuck with low pay and (usually) stability. Well, except for furloughs.

Whereas contractors take the "squeeze'em till they squeal" approach and get paid much much more.

It always made me wonder why when the govt takes the lowest bidder, and it has all sorts of riders and exceptions to charge a pile of money more... Why does the government accept that arrangement, instead of saying "Nope, you should have calculated that in your costs." If there was an answer, I'd have to say 'incompetence'.

I have not worked for the feds, but have spent time in state/local government. Basically the perception of conflict or impropriety drives the process.

Additionally, random process gets bolted on by outside parties (legislature, external compliance, procurement regulation authority within the executive) and creates delay and policies of questionable value. Each thing is not necessarily a bad thing individually, but add up to a nightmare process in many cases.

It’s not incompetence, it’s a different perception of success. A government procurement officer views success as meeting compliance requirements, and then competing in price. Compliance matters more as the procurement folks face nasty audits or even prosecution if there’s an issue.

The same stupidity happens in corporate procurement, but doesn’t make the news because it isn’t public. When I sold stuff to a fortune 50 company in college, they would roll random shit like pencils, toilet paper and chairs into capital equipment leases to goose the books.

Probably for the same reason as any other low-savings cut in a Republican administration. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist#2001

The entire NIST budget is pretty large. This is one of the most visible things they do. By threatening to cut this if their budget shrinks, perhaps they're hoping to preserve their original budget request.

That's a realistic story in light of how Sesame Street, one of PBS's most profitable (and absolutely self-sustaining) franchises, was used to campaign against budget cuts back in the day. If the NIST head was a completely unscrupulous government agent (not making any accusations of course) then it would clearly be in their interest to only offer to cut valuable high-profile programs, burying their cut-able pet projects as deeply as possible. That would be the strategy that minimized the political will to cut the budget.

[0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/big-bir...

This will not fly in Turkey, as Turkish constitution applies the previous term's budget inflation adjusted if legistlature fails to approve the budget in time.

I'm guessing it's a similar reason that church bells aren't carefully budgeted for to keep the town running. Do you use WWV?

I run a casio waveceptor watch. It is accurate to within half a second of what the local tv uses for broadcast time and seeing as I am involved in a live broadcast then yes i do need that accuracy weekly.

I use WWV (or more accurately, WWVB) to automatically set my Casio Navihawk watch, as well as my digital wall clocks.

I also rely on WWV as a beacon to make sure my HF amateur radio station is receiving properly.

I picked up a USN ship's wall clock synchronized by WWV at a ham radio swap meet several years ago. Much of my day is spent in the workshop and this is the only way I keep aware of the time.

Do you stand here and claim that people don’t use it?

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