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Google has indeed been much more successful at shipping vaporware.

I wouldn't call google's products vaporware. There are definitely five that I have used. Search, Gmail, Maps, Youtube, and Android. I barely use google search anymore (DDG is my major driver) - I'm not too content with Gmail anymore, and my youtube use has gone down since their ad strategy has changed.

Probably Maps and Android are the two products they do that I would consider 'quality'.

I'm not happy with Tensorflow, Golang, or Kubernetes.

In the last twenty years, Google/Alphabet has killed more products than Apple has launched.

In a very real sense, Alphabet has an r selected corporate strategy, while Apple is K selected[0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory

> my youtube use has gone down since their ad strategy has changed.

I pay for Google Music and YouTube for $16 for 5 family members and me. I haven't seen a YouTube ad for years. Best use of my money every month.

Tensorflow, I can understand - I imagine the rampant popularity of pytorch shows we're not alone.

What's your issue with Golang though?

There was an article about how golang takes a very classist attitude... There are programmers who use go, that are the peons, and the programmers who write go, who are anointed.. like hashmaps breaking the typesystem.

It feels like a lot of the things that happen like if err != nil are code smell. I wrote a cli in go and wouldn't mind it again but I program in elixir now and the emphasis on developer joy is refreshing (but it makes wise choices, e.g limiting the scope of macros to lexical)

oh chrome is pretty popular it seems (I use firefox)

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