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I think Java just doesn't fit with the character of HNers. It is a stale, boring, simple language. As such it is mostly interesting to 9/5 programmers, not for creative people who build the companies of the future. The latter group wants 'creative' languages that do not tell you how to do things, such as LISP, Haskell, and Ruby.

Maybe it's an overgeneralization, but I still think it is generally true.

C and C++ were the same language last time I used them. So were Pascal, ObjectPascal, and Delphi, 3 separate languages in the top 50. And Clojure is Lisp, but Scheme isn't!

C and C++ most definitely are not the same language.

Java is used in the enterprise, C/C++ is properly more embedded stuff.

None of which tend to end up on hn.