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What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.

I have the original Jelly phone, and it's actually smaller than Nokia phones I used in pre-smartphone days.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-sm...

How's the battery life? I got the Atom even though it's uglier because I read bad reviews of the Jelly's battery.

I got one off the kickstarter, and it's a neat little gadget. It hasn't fully replaced my main smartphone, but it's great for outdoors activities, or if I'm wearing an outfit without big pockets and don't want to carry a bag.

Did get another SIM or move the one from your phone into the Atom?

I swap my SIM when I want to use it, but it would be less hassle to get a separate one.

But then, how do people contact you? Anything tied to your phone number wouldn't work. Perhaps only Telegram, Skype, Messenger work cross device. Phone calls and WhatsApp don't.

If I'm out cycling or paddling, I probably don't want to be all that reachable, anyway.

For phone calls, good old call redirect is still a thing :P

No idea about whatsapp though.

This might be the greatest prison phone ever

And that one small time they were caught spying on all their users interactions [1] I say that as a pretty happy OnePlus 3T user.

  [1] https://fossbytes.com/oneplus-spying-users-disable/

Also the 5T camera is awful if you aren't using their proprietary vendor blobs. Custom ROMs like Lineage take absolutely shocking photos.

Can confirm. You are kinda forced into using their ROM.

I just want a good Android phone with at least some level of enhanced privacy. Its such a pity Copperhead went kinda weird.

I have the 5 and the photos are awful with the stock app...

For me it was the opposite, the removal of the obnoxious and ancient headphone jack was one of the reason I bought a 6T.

I'm really curious why you think that. Obnoxious why? How?

And ancient = bad? Boy, do I have some bad news about power sockets you have at home.......

Audio over Bluetooth has been one of the most consistently terrible user experiences I've encountered, and I used Linux as my daily driver in the early 00's.

I want to embrace the future. The more phones to get rid of the headphone jack, the more headphone companies will realize they need to make wireless versions.

That's like saying you want petrol stations to start closing down, so that manufacturers hurry up with electric cars. The logic is sound, but in the meantime it would be just bloody inconvenient to drive miles to a nearest petrol station while you still haven't got an electric car.

I want wireless headphones too, but I don't want to use adapters with my existing(and very expensive) headphones that I have right now. More importantly, having a headphone jack does not stop bluetooth headphones from working.

It would be nice if there were a way to deliver something resembling a quality audio to wireless headphones first. And a way to connect quality headphones to that magical wireless delivery system. Then you can get rid of a jack.

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