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For years I've essentially not consumed sugar except for that in vegetables etc.

I still suffer from this rubbish though: 1. I often can't find any meat in the supermarket that has not been denatured by having the fat removed. 2. I reject a lot of products which I suspect I'd like because they have added sugar. 3. I have to tamp down on my anger when I hear somebody rabbiting on about the dangers of fat.

Humans truly are a stupid species.

Best to ignore "Public Health" advice, too much of it is demonstrably idiocy.

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> 1. I often can't find any meat in the supermarket that has not been denatured by having the fat removed.

Youtuber Thomas Delauer makes the case that this is not such a big deal since you can always mix lean meat with other sources of fat (like butter or coco nut oil).

Also I once heard that toxins are accumulated in fat tissue so if you eat animals that were poorly fed (for instance cows fed with grains instead of grass), by only eating lean cuts you dodge that bullet.

The ideal meat might come from extinct megafauna anyway : I'm personally seduced by the theory that the neolithic revolution was some kind of a hack we had to pull off when we hunted down all big game to extinction at the end of the last glaciation.

Unless that extinction was not due to human intervention at all, but rather a cataclysmic event causing the Younger Dryas cooling. Maybe the meteor that created the Hiawatha crater on Greenland. [0]

Which doesn't really contradict your theory though, only your reason for the megafauna extinction.

[0] https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/695704

It's a debated issue among paleontologists, IIRC. Surely, human hunting did not help those species anyway. We also know for sure that in more recent times humans hunted many species of large animals to extinction (like giant birds), so until a definitive evidence is provided, to me the hunting hypothesis gets a high prior probability.

It also seems that most mass extinctions were not due to a single factor anyway, but to a combination of factors. So, yeah.

“Humans are a stupid species”

I was just now in a little farm watching animals being fed as a group (goats, llamas etc). They all fought each other over the food despite the fact there were enough for all of them, and this event happens multiple times a day. They can’t learn not to spend energy fighting based on past experience.

One week ago I flew 11 hours in a plane on high altitude and arrived safely in my destination.

My point is, let’s give some credit to our species. We’re trying and life is hard.

I was listening to the car radio only yesterday, tuned into a mainstream station and an advert came on for one of the major supermarkets. The gist of the advert was the holiday seasons had passed and you might be looking to lose some of the "excesses" e.g. body fat, so why not get some x brand low fat (high sugar) yogurts, six for the price of four.

I just said to myself, how can they get away with putting out a clear lie and one that is a health hazard.

The general public is still largely stuck in the past and actually thinks low fat foods == non-fattening foods. So it's effective marketing.

Yet another example of marketing being way underregulated and generally harmful to society.

>often can't find any meat in the supermarket that has not been denatured by having the fat removed

I generally find that to be the tastiest, since I can use way more butter or oil when cooking it.

> I have to tamp down on my anger when I hear somebody rabbiting on about the dangers of fat.

Tell me about. Fat fear mongering, fat less skin less chicken. I love myself fat. When I eat fat , I have a stable energy levels all through out the day, but as soon as Carb(bread, grains etc not the veggies) kicks in, I crash.

I'm prone to cholesterol, I wish I could turn to fat like you do.

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