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not to mentioned they are government-sanctioned/backed oligarchs.

Yeah but so is Ford (https://qz.com/1262815/fords-move-to-stop-making-cars-was-en...) and GM ($49.5 Billion US govt. bailout), they would have been crushed by the Japanese and European auto companies a long time ago but nobody cares, it's the winners that matter in the world so saying govt. sanctioned is pretty random chance of probability, I wish I was a govt. sanctioned company person in China but that is never gonna happen.

By the way, China is the one and only foreign market where GM ever managed to sell their bad cars.

You mean SAIC-GM (51% SAIC, 49% GM JV of course). Buick is considered a decent brand in China.

American brands are more competitive with Japanese brands in China due a fluke: as all of them are made in human labor intensive factories (vs. using more robots), the quality of Japanese designed cars has gone way down to the point that Toyota and Honda aren't thought of as being very good cars like they are in the states.

I say it's not much different from what it is in states: Old Rich People Drive Buicks.

Young rich people might drive Buicks in China. My 40ish boss had a Buick luxury minivan that they don't even make in the states.

Forty is old

Eh. Minivan means you have kids to worry about. Buick is basically dead in the states but is a viable brand in China for some reason.

And yes, Chinese made Toyotas are terrible

every submission of yours is chinese shilling. and it’s facetious to compare them.

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