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Camps in Xinjiang have a lot to do with an anti-terrorism effort. Out of the 10 distinct Muslim ethnic groups in China, only one, the Uyghurs, are being put in camps for anti-radicalization efforts due the terrorist activities they engaged in over the last 2+ decades (running over people with cars, attacking businesses & government buildings).

Secondly, the Iran sanctions are illegal and most European countries are still doing business with Iran and not being penalized for it by the US. This is pure tradewar leverage/thuggery at work.

Get ready for "yellow peril" style propaganda (anyone find the SuperMicro spychips yet? I thought we were riddled with them) to make a comeback as China's economy becomes more of a threat to US hegemony.

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Putting a million people into re-education camps is simply terrible. There is no justification for it.

You are right, re-education camps to de-radicalize are bad but they are objectively better than our method of killing 1+ million civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan in the name of anti-terrorism then leaving a vacuum for ISIS to continue the mayhem and destabilize the whole region.

> re-education camps to de-radicalize

That's bullshit. The camps aren't there to "de-radicalize" anyone, they're there to subjugate and destroy a minority culture.

This is proven because this government campaign also targets "moderates" of that culture, even ones that have gone out of their way to declare loyalty to the state:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/world/asia/china-xinjiang...

> Last year, Mr. Jalaleddin joined a government-led campaign for prominent Uighurs to write open letters declaring their allegiance to the state.

> Despite that declaration, he was detained in January 2018 [emphasis mine], according to overseas Uighur organizations.

> “So many moderate intellectuals have been detained now,” Dr. Harris said. “I don’t know how else to understand this, except as a deliberate policy to deprive Uyghurs of their cultural memory.”

Are they objectively better? I have a hard time seeing either as better than the other, just horrifying in their own unique ways.

> Get ready for "yellow peril" style propaganda (anyone find the SuperMicro spychips yet? I thought we were riddled with them) to make a comeback as China's economy becomes more of a threat to US hegemony.

I read that Bloomberg article as more of a swipe at Apple and Amazon than at SuperMicro—especially given the tenor of other articles they've posted, as well as the fact that both companies responded forcefully almost immediately, with no followup or rebuttal from Bloomberg.

You should see what happened to Supermicro's (SMCI) marketcap during those fake reports, the swipe didn't affect AAPL & AMZN's stock price near as much, if at all.

It's an anti-separatist crackdown that can be compared to China's similar crackdown on Tibet. In fact, the top official (Chen QuanGuo) who ran and experimented with surveillance technology and forced assimilation in Tibet was transferred to Xinjiang in 2017 to essentially build up and run the same type of program, in less time, and for a much larger region (in both area and population). Hence, the camps.

In no way is any of it justified-- it's millions of people, and even the Uyghurs that escape are being continually hunted by the government.

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